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Unread postby pocketless » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:26 pm
So, you get invited to an 80s themed party. You think "Oh awesome! I bet there's going to be spandex all over the place!"
Then when you get there all you see is chicks in spandex with these annoying shorts covering the view!
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After that, you see the only people wearing spandex with no shorts or shirt to cover the view...AND IT'S A BUNCH OF DUDES!
:( :(
Specifically remember this happening before the whole leggings thing came back in style.
I <3 Vertically striped spandex.

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Unread postby savethespandex » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:44 pm
anything short of string-bow ties beats jazz pants
You're damned right I'd rather see women wear tights! Does anyone have a problem with that?

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Re: Pet Peeves?

Unread postby DynamicTorque » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:27 pm
Yeah....it's called "welcome to the world of women no longer have the body or self-image/confidence to expose themselves", it's chronic!

Take a look at some of the old Abba video's and you can see how a 'sexy' women in the 80's could look...they still had hips, thights and what they call 'curves'...today women are more prompted towards the super-model anorexic look, they're expected to have uber-tight asses, flawless thighs and a tight/fit/tone body: if they can't show that off, they may as well cover it up....for as the prophecy reads: if you can't SEE it, then IT doesn't exist!

Coverupitis; it's rampant!

The other issue is their age, many women figure if they don't have the bodies they had in their 20's and 30's...then it's just not worth letting everyone see what has degraded underneath. They're very self conscious. I've tried to get women in my spin class to join me in the pool; they're terrified of the notion. I've even suggested to several women to try wearing proper cycling shorts in class and that took results in a 'no way in hell' look.

It's just sad, aside from the beach or pool, you just won't see women running skin-tight anymore...and even some of these bathing suits do a good job of depriving us from seeing some nice fabric flow over shape. :(
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Unread postby mpmb » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:32 pm
Which is doubly a shame because women were designed to look (or we were designed to think they look) good in pretty much most circumstances!

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Unread postby Lycra Clad » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:10 pm
I'll categorize pet peeves into 4 categories:

1. Videos
2. Photos
3. Movies
4. Real Life

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1. In videos, I hate it when women suddenly appear in sexy catsuits or unitards but the director is so crappy at his job that he only covers them for like a split second. And then the camera quickly switches to a guy dancing for a couple of seconds, before switching back to the women in spandex for only a few seconds. That on and off switch is really annoying. You don't get to see the women dancing continuously for more than 1 or 2 seconds and every time the male dancer appears you lose just about any sexual arousal you got from the ladies. It's stupid and annoying.

Another disaster was when a girl in a sexy unitard was performing on stage but she had her unitard covered by an over-coat for most of the song. Then near the end of the song, she takes off the over-coat and starts strutting as though she's naked. Trouble is, it only lasts for 2 seconds before the music video is over.

2. In photos, I hate it when women wear spandex (leotards or unitards) while covering them up with normal clothes. Seriously, then what's the point of that picture?

3. My biggest pet peeve. I've seen blue movies of women in catsuits getting pounded so heavily by a male actor. My biggest problem with this is that the catsuit barely stays on during the movie. Spandex is such a beautiful material that it also encases a woman like a package that was wrapped around a gift. And unfortunately, the package always get ripped open in order to reach for the gift. That's how spandex is treated. And it's damn annoying. Like one time I remember seeing a porn video of a girl in a beautiful blue spandex unitard getting fucked by some lucky bastard. He feels her unitard, almost like he's appreciating the attire. But then he suddenly rips a hole in the crotch area to start penetrating the girl. Sure, that's logical, you might think. But as the movie goes on, the guy slowly but surely continues ripping the hole until it's larger. You're thinking to yourself, good god when is this ripping going to end? But nope, it won't. He's not going to stop destroying that unitard until nothing is left on her and until bits and pieces of spandex are laying on the floor like a rubble caused by some bloody massacre.

I hate it. I don't mind seeing unitards ripped. I think it adds to the excitement how this material can be ripped off nicely. In fact, it adds to the sexiness. But when it's done too quickly, it's annoying as hell.

4. In real life my biggest pet peeve is knowing that a lady is wearing a catsuit underneath cause you can see part of it showing in her arms and legs. But sadly, it's covered up modestly and the girl teases you into knowing what she's wearing below. But she's not going to move an inch of her clothes away to let you see more of it. Another pet peeve of mine is when there's a gym full of women in sexy spandex but you can't access that gym cause it's for women only.
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Re: Pet Peeves?

Unread postby DynamicTorque » Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:33 am

Lycra Clad wrote:I'll categorize pet peeves into 4 categories:

1. Videos
2. Photos
3. Movies
4. Real Life

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1. In videos, I hate it when women suddenly appear in sexy catsuits or unitards but the director is so crappy at his job that he only covers them for like a split second. And then the camera quickly switches to a guy dancing for a couple of seconds, before switching back to the women in spandex for only a few seconds. That on and off switch is really annoying. You don't get to see the women dancing continuously for more than 1 or 2 seconds and every time the male dancer appears you lose just about any sexual arousal you got from the ladies. It's stupid and annoying.

Another disaster was when a girl in a sexy unitard was performing on stage but she had her unitard covered by an over-coat for most of the song. Then near the end of the song, she takes off the over-coat and starts strutting as though she's naked. Trouble is, it only lasts for 2 seconds before the music video is over.

2. In photos, I hate it when women wear spandex (leotards or unitards) while covering them up with normal clothes. Seriously, then what's the point of that picture?

3. My biggest pet peeve. I've seen blue movies of women in catsuits getting pounded so heavily by a male actor. My biggest problem with this is that the catsuit barely stays on during the movie. Spandex is such a beautiful material that it also encases a woman like a package that was wrapped around a gift. And unfortunately, the package always get ripped open in order to reach for the gift. That's how spandex is treated. And it's damn annoying. Like one time I remember seeing a porn video of a girl in a beautiful blue spandex unitard getting fucked by some lucky bastard. He feels her unitard, almost like he's appreciating the attire. But then he suddenly rips a hole in the crotch area to start penetrating the girl. Sure, that's logical, you might think. But as the movie goes on, the guy slowly but surely continues ripping the hole until it's larger. You're thinking to yourself, good god when is this ripping going to end? But nope, it won't. He's not going to stop destroying that unitard until nothing is left on her and until bits and pieces of spandex are laying on the floor like a rubble caused by some bloody massacre.

I hate it. I don't mind seeing unitards ripped. I think it adds to the excitement how this material can be ripped off nicely. In fact, it adds to the sexiness. But when it's done too quickly, it's annoying as hell.

4. In real life my biggest pet peeve is knowing that a lady is wearing a catsuit underneath cause you can see part of it showing in her arms and legs. But sadly, it's covered up modestly and the girl teases you into knowing what she's wearing below. But she's not going to move an inch of her clothes away to let you see more of it. Another pet peeve of mine is when there's a gym full of women in sexy spandex but you can't access that gym cause it's for women only.

Damn good post!!!!!! Now that's the kind of writing I like to see & appreciate!!

I don't like to see ripping of any sort, in a perfect world it would take an enormous amount of effort to permeate/penetrate the material...and then like the liquid-metal of Terminator, the material would instantly close-up and resume it's flawless flow of solid material.

LOL, in some kind of sick Sci-fi movie a women could even clamp down and trap the guy....he'd panic, fall away missing his junk and then die. She'd re-seal and move on to her next pray...like some catsuit wearing black widow. Oh my, what a sick thought! :D
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Unread postby jack » Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:14 pm
would like to see those movies and pics :)

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Unread postby Lycra Clad » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:32 am

jack wrote:would like to see those movies and pics :)

I don't wish to advertise any site but my friend iLycra (Lycra Hunter) is a member over at shinyuploads dot com and there was a very stunning video of a guy and girl dressed in white catsuits. There's also another video of a girl in a black catsuit posted at xhamster dot com (forgot the title name but I think it was East European). And there's a porn of a girl in a blue catsuit with knee high socks getting ripped apart by some guy in a space suit. The problem is I don't have their links. But good god there are so many of those movies. It's too bad we don't have a lot of access to them.
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Unread postby Lycra Clad » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:41 am

DynamicTorque wrote:I don't like to see ripping of any sort, in a perfect world it would take an enormous amount of effort to permeate/penetrate the material...and then like the liquid-metal of Terminator, the material would instantly close-up and resume it's flawless flow of solid material.

In a perfect world, that would be awesome (and so would your idea of a black widow lol)!!!
But yeah, ideally the material should not be penetrated too easily and it would rock my world if it can heal itself hehe. No more wasting countless of material and hours trying to gather the spandex again and design a new unitard. With a perfect world like that, you can make do with one unitard for the rest of your life. And how about one that perfectly/tightly fits onto a woman, while altering her weight and making it ideal! Ooh yeah! :mrgreen:

Sadly it is quite breakable, isn't it? I find that especially true of the unitard. As soon as a small hole is pierced through the spandex catsuit, you just know it's game over. In a matter of minutes or hours, it'll be ripped like tissue paper. That's what annoys me in porn. Just as soon as I see a girl's catsuit being penetrated in the crotch area, the first thing that runs through my mind is 'here we go again'. Sometimes the male actor doesn't even require to grapple onto her spandex opening in order to rip it wider. All he needs to do is pound the living hell out of the girl and you'll slowly see the hole getting bigger and bigger as it stretches itself open for the whole world to see. Some male actors I've seen knew what they were doing and they left it for the unitard to rip itself up after they pierced it in the first place. 8-)
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Unread postby pocketless » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:43 pm
Thanks a lot for the responses guys!
I just gotta vent here for the minute.
So, I'm watching Big Brother in HUGE anticipation to see who gots to wear the unitard this year. And it's a girl with pretty nice looking ass IMO. (I still would of preferred it to be the redhead, but what can ya do? Besides, she wears enough leggings already)

So it's going all good right? Wrong. She's up for eviction the very same episode she got the damn unitard! (If my memory serves correctly) And she's out of the house the next episode!! What a rip off!
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Unread postby DynamicTorque » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:22 pm
I've never watched the show, but my take based on my limited exposure is that some participant ends-up wearing the unitard as though it were a pentalty. I can't recall the episode or history, but I think it may have been a gal named Jen who, after wearing the uni for a week remarked that going back to regular clothing felt annoying and she actually liked/preferred the unitard. No surprise there; most women would be happily surprised if they'd give it a chance. Too bad it's not a better-cut unitard. I also recall one guy on the show seemed particularly fascinated with getting the gals into the unitard, no doubt he may be the fetish-driven coordinator of the effort.
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Unread postby Lycra Clad » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:59 am
DT, since they're British I doubt it's a real/deep fascination into spandex more than it's simply a matter of acting silly and doing something fun. Not that there aren't any British people seriously interested in the fetish side of spandex but it just seems like the sort of thing you'd expect them to do when they're out trying to have a laugh. You might be right, though. Someone in that show must have some admiration for unitards but this trend is growing. The mainstream public (unlike us) has a different name for zentais. They call them 'morphsuits' and they use them in parties, sporting events, etc. Who knows what's going through the mind of the person who initiated that idea? :P
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Unread postby DynamicTorque » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:41 pm
British? Odd, I thought it was some local production. In fact, I'm pretty certain one of our friends is a co-producer of the show and it's done here locally near Burbank/Hollywood. Are we talking about the same show? Some dumb-ass spoiled kids in their late 20's and early 30's all stuck in some weird home-stage and one of them ends-up having to wear a bright-red long sleeved, long-legged old-school unitard?
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Unread postby monkeyboy01 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:36 pm

DynamicTorque wrote:I don't like to see ripping of any sort

Oh...then you're going to love these vids :

Appearantly, there's some fetish community who like ripping and burning spandex/satin clothes.

About partially covered spandex : imo, it can be very sexy ; for example, spotting spandex on a woman
who wears it under her normal clothes. It's like "oooo, ZOMG she's secretly wearing spandex underneath!".

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Unread postby eldorado » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:57 am
the only real pet peeve i have when the lycra is loose...this is especially common the sleeves of long sleeve leotards and unitards

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Unread postby monkeyboy01 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:08 pm
Oh btw, I know another one : Lycra snags really quickly. Rough hands/nails are not Lycra's best friends.

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Unread postby DynamicTorque » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:05 am
Or the way it melts when exposed to chlorine. Really makes you think twice before getting into a pool with a nice triathlon suit. The material isn't as delicate as it looks, but it sure isn't much durable either!

And yeah, loose-fitting spandex sucks too! In the current banner ads, only the gal in black and the delicious gal in pink (with the leg warmers) have flowing lines, the rest have creases, wrinkles and just poor color-combinations...no wonder they call it amateurs, lol
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Unread postby monkeyboy01 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:34 pm

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DynamicTorque wrote:I don't like to see ripping of any sort

Oh...then you're going to love these vids :

Ugh, I simply do not understand the necessity of damaging clothes. Is it a way to make someone feel powerful by any chance? I just never got it.

It reminds me of my ex-boyfriend in 2008, who got me interested in spandex fashion in the first place. After endless days of constant moaning, I finally succumbed to his demands and paid for a tailor-made catsuit. It had a nice zipper below for sexual purposes, which my Arab ex somehow ignored. The zipper was there for a reason and that reason being that once he was done he should kindly zip it back up again. It took me weeks to get that catsuit done for his 'special occassion' and he managed to ruin it in a matter of seconds. For someone who claimed to appreciate this fetish, I thought it was kinda weird for him to rip the catsuit up like he had some inner childhood grudge against the material.

Is this a guy thing or is it just a small fraction of the community? :?

Yeah, there seems to be a sub-fetish amongst fetish clothing groups. I discovered it by chance on youtube. They appear to have a love-hate relationship with their fetish clothes,
regardless of whether it's Lycra, Satin, Nylon or other. I had a PM conversation with someone who shares the fetish for women's one piece swimsuits : he said he loved them and he
loves to play in them with his GF, but he also loves to "torture" the swimsuits, or seeing them being "tortured" ( which mostly involves ripping or burning )
He said the excitement comes from the fact that deep inside, he cringes if he sees harm done to the swimsuits, and in turn, that excites him. I guess he feels a kind of submissive feeling if
he sees his favourite fetish material being damaged.
It's really odd.... and a waste of money and resources by the way. Unless it's an item which is really worn out or waaaaay to small. I have to admit though : I wanted to test the reactions
of some of these people, so I burned some of these spandex items which were really redundant : eventually, these vids attracted a lot of people who are into the ripping/burning fetish clothes
thing.
About your ex BF : I guess he was really craving for YOU at that moment... so, take it as a compliment to yourself ;) Still, too bad about the suit :(

Also, I try to keep my hands and fingernails as smooth as possible ; since the Lycra is kinda prone to snagging.

At the moment I love the double layered Lycra swimsuits best. The inside lining so to say, is made of the same exact Lycra as the outside layer : so it's exactly as slippery from the inside as on the outside, yet still very thin. This is great and stimulating when I play with my wife when we both wear one piece swimsuits.

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Unread postby monkeyboy01 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:20 pm

Nina wrote:he was extremely racist of dark-skinned people, especially Africans and South Indians.

Well, FYI...my wife and I are both of Asian origine. She was working in the USA for some time and she wasn't especially fond of Afro Americans either, but that was more on a superficial
level because of their street attitude.

Personally, i LOVE to see spandex on black women, but I can appreciate any goodlooking woman regardless of race.

Ontopic again : another major pet peeve to me is 'horizontal' cut Lycra suits. You know Lycra fabric is a knit fabric : it means the fabric is knit in rows. Depending on how they sew the suit,
these rows can be either horizontal or vertical. If they're vertical, the suit feels smoother if you stroke it up and down. If the tread rows are horizontal, the suit feels not as smooth vertically : major disappointment to me. You can test it yourself and then you know if you have a vertical or horizontal cut suit.

That's why I really prefer Lycra suits with a vertical cut, like the Japanese Arena NUX swimsuits and I usually buy some custom made suits online as well.

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Unread postby DynamicTorque » Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:34 am

Nina wrote:Yeah my suit was tortured badly unfortunately... it's definitely a waste of money and resources.

I have to say, most of my triathlon suits run between $90 and $185 and when they finally start to wear-out or fall apart, it's a VERY sad day when I finally have to declare then 'dead' and no longer worthy of being worn. It's so hard to throw them out, I used to stash them in a drawer and just figured I'd deal with it later....but eventually, like any other piece of useless clothing, I had to throw them in the trash. Something just feels to inherently wrong about doing so.

Nina, could you tell us a bit more about your fascination with spandex? Do you enjoy wearing it or is it the affect is has with men? Do you like men in spandex? What exactly do you relate to?...or is this just a residual thing from your experience with your ex?
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Unread postby monkeyboy01 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:56 pm

Nina wrote:I can't relate the feeling I get to what men experience when wearing it.

...this correlates to the phenomenon of many people who usually condemn wearing spandex, people who think it's "gay", people who think it looks "out of fashion", etc. etc. : Another big pet peeve, although this is not aimed at you or your post in particular.

So, let me try to explain WHY we're into spandex.
I think a lot of men got fascinated by spandex in childhood & puberty. For myself, it went like this :

As a kid, I would be playing outside, around the house and in the garage. One day, I ran into some old leather women's boots my mom kinda discarded when I found them in the garage.
The shimmer of the leather caught my attention, but upon further inspection I found the boots had a nylon/polyamide inside lining ; it had a dull sheen to it like pantyhose and it felt soft and slippery, unlike anything I knew ( going by experience of my boys clothes).

At that point, a visual interest turned into a tactile sense interest !

Years later ( mid 80's ) I came to know the fact that many female underwear, swimwear (male & female) and leotards were made of similar materials.
So, in my mind the train of thought went like this : "If that stuff feels that slippery and good in my hands, imagine how good it'll feel to my entire body and privates!"
Of course, during swimming lessons we would wear Speedos or something similar. Somehow, the ones my mom got me were speedos without the cotton inside lining. Trying them on for the first time, confirmed my expectations : it was a slippery sensation overload and I was hooked.

I also knew that if I saw shiny clothes, it would most likely feel soft, slippery and stretchy. Thus, to me, those speedos were in fact not much different from women's lingerie in the first place.
From there on, experience with other fabrics resulted into differentiation & preference.

I came to know that satin & silk have a similar shine like spandex, but they're usually not as smooth nor stretchy as spandex. Conclusion : spandex wins.
Leather, rubber and latex can have a similar sheen as well : but they were not as soft, flimsy thin nor as slippery as my spandex speedos. Conclusion : spandex wins.
So, the major win factor to me is a tactile one. It has to feel, soft, thin and slippery to me.
That's why the speedos became the #1 masturbatory aid ; the best 'dry' lube, WITHOUT having to deal with cleaning up the oily mess. Yeah sorry, this os probably not the most modesr or subtle way to put it into context, but I just can't deny the tactile sensation of spandex became a part of masturbation. But I don't feel guilty about my spandex fascination being linked to that, because otherwise I would have to feel guilty of masturbation in any other form too, whether that involves spandex or any other fabric or fetish item. It's just a natural thing.

This proves, my interest in spandex has absolutely nothing to do with gayness nor was it about wanting to be a female either. It was purely about a visual fascination with the shiny properties of spandex which proved to have a super sensual tactile feeling to it.

So, yeah it bugs me if people condemn spandex without even understanding what makes it so likeable. Yeah, we all know it looks bad on fat people, but to I always prefer to look at the upsides of things, rather than the downsides.
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Unread postby DynamicTorque » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:11 am
That's a really good write-up Monkey-B, some solid thoughts there! :)

I too hate & despise the latent connection people tend to make between spandex & being gay. I can site 4 reasons why this seems to be the case:

Dance - men wearing spandex has long been associated with the ballet or other dance troops...and it's widely known that the men involved in dance are like 90% gay. We've all seen some of these troops on television, these guys are just brimming with gayness....so when we wear the spandex, it's quick to figure we're flower-boys too.

Gays - gays notoriously enjoy the risque' nature of spandex, they love the exhibitionistic qualities of a fabric that shows the ass and even outlines the genitals, they use it as a quasi-naked material, like lingerie for men. Hell, those fruits even tried recruiting fish-net for men too!

Feminine qualities - let's face it, it's widely considered a material this soft, silky, gentle and flowing...it's nature is feminine and for the most part you see women mostly wearing it...so that association is there.

Scared men - and here's a new one for the books. Indeed, how many times have you heard a guy say "You won't catch me wearing that stuff"...and why? Probably because us men generally like wearing our baggy jeans and other clothing that doesn't hold us accountable for the shape and size of our bodies. I recall the first time I held-up a pair of cycling shorts and realized my ass skin would only be covered with a thin layer of material...it's almost degrading to have that much shape and area outlined for all to see. Not many guys feel good about exposing themselves along those lines, even if they do have good bodies. Too many guys find the whole look too revealing & exposing; they're scared of it....they don't want to put-up anything and feel the least bit exposed. We all forget just how naked we felt the first time we went out in semi-public in our gear....but your average guy is scared or even terrified of it......BUT I think the more they see other guys wearing it, the more open they are to join the pack and not feel so inhibited.
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Unread postby monkeyboy01 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:44 pm

Nina wrote:Well I don't really think I needed to know all the reasons (LOL)

Well, you were basically asking / wondering the exact reason why men fall in love with this fabric ;)

Sorry, I just gave the 100% honest answer. I can't help the fact it's the sexual aspect which makes the attraction to spandex. That's what makes it a fetish.

Nina wrote:but I think I'm beginning to understand why some men are in love with it. Perhaps my ex discovered his fetish when touching women's Arabic robes because a lot of them have that silky and smooth feeling. So it's like something you crave for or does it only work when it encompasses a woman's body? I mean, what I'm trying to ask is if you guys are after the visual side of how it looks on a feminine build or if it's just the fabric that entices you lot? :)

or if it's just the fabric that entices you lot? : Reason # 1 for me and many other spandex lovers.

if you guys are after the visual side of how it looks on a feminine build : That helps, but it's not my main reason.

So it's like something you crave for or does it only work when it encompasses a woman's body? I crave it on my own body and if my wife wears it I like it even more.

It sounds to me your ex boyfriend was into spandex as well for the tactile feeling. He discovered he really likes the soft slippery fabrics ; those are 'feminine'.
Try to imagine it from a male point of view : men are raised to think we ought to wear mostly cotton baggy clothes.
As boys, we see what the girls wear and start to wonder about that shiny stuff they're wearing because, obviously... the "norm" says we shouldn't wear such things.

Boys never or rarely get the chance to touch/wear actual women's lingerie, but they do get to wear sports wear made out of spandex sometimes. Then, when you know spandex briefs and women's panties are made out of fairly similar fabric; once a boy realizes that, he basically "knows" what lingerie feels like.

Then he knows the "forbidden fruit".

Of course... there are lots of men, who became attracted to spandex later in life when they saw a pretty woman in spandex ; in that case the attraction to spandex is indirect.

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Unread postby LA Lycra-Spandex » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:27 pm

Nina wrote: So it's like something you crave for or does it only work when it encompasses a woman's body? I mean, what I'm trying to ask is if you guys are after the visual side of how it looks on a feminine build or if it's just the fabric that entices you lot? :)

I would have to say a combination of both, in my case. I like the way it looks on a woman, but I also like the way the fabric feels & looks on me.

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Unread postby DynamicTorque » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:22 pm

LA Lycra-Spandex wrote:

Nina wrote: So it's like something you crave for or does it only work when it encompasses a woman's body? I mean, what I'm trying to ask is if you guys are after the visual side of how it looks on a feminine build or if it's just the fabric that entices you lot? :)

I would have to say a combination of both, in my case. I like the way it looks on a woman, but I also like the way the fabric feels & looks on me.

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I like the way if feels & looks on me, but it all started with seeing a women's body completely covered & encased in shiny fabric...it just looked so amazing...and then the curiousity to try it on...which was tabboo & quasi-crossdressing, until men started wearing cycling shorts and suddenly a whole world of lycra opened-up for me.
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Unread postby monkeyboy01 » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:36 am

Nina wrote:But as you say, it could also be a direct relationship and needs no 3rd party like myself in the middle LOL.

Well, actually...

It ( the spandex fetish ) might bring an existing relationship to a new level.

Too often the spandex fetish - like my earlier post with, ahhum ...details.... make it seem like the solitary perverted and dirty onanism thing : very much a stereotype many people condemn.

But, if both partners in a relationship can get a feel for subtleties of the Lycra fabric....the fetish can transcend from blunt instant 5 minutes self gratification into seemingly endless tantric teasing.
Then it's not about instant cumming anymore and with subtle teasing strokes while both partners wear Lycra, they can enjoy eachother seemingly endless times without orgasm and be fine with that.

I mean, that's the magic of Lycra ; if one can truly transfer that feeling for the fetish to his/her beloved partner.

The pet peeve here is... that too often one of the partners "doesn't get it" and then condemns the fetish...but I guess I can't blame individuals for being raised in a narrow minded manner....

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Unread postby eldorado » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:22 am

Nina wrote:I always thought it was primarily the visual enhancement it had on women that made the initial attraction between men and spandex. But as you say, it could also be a direct relationship and needs no 3rd party like myself in the middle LOL.

this is interesting and i never really thought about it too much. for me when i was 6-7 years old i first saw leotards when i was watching professional wrestling or when my mom was exercising and was fascinated with the fabric itself, its shape, the way it hugged the body, and the way it would feel on my privates, and I wanted to wear it. but quickly after that i discovered how leotards look on other female bodies via the JC Penny catalog and wanted to wear her leotards. often my prepubescent dreams revolved around me wearing leotards. in the dreams i was always by myself. it always felt so good that i would start floating in the dream. surprisingly, when i finally wore leotards the feeling was very similar to how it felt in the dream. it wasn't until i hit puberty and started noticing girls more that i had the desire for a girlfriend and that the thought of being with a woman and her wearing leotards for me really took hold.

this may make some people uncomfortable but it's a farce to say that kids are non-sexual. i have a friend who was having sex from a very young age (with other kids mind you) and is no worse the wear. my own experience is more innocent and mild, but nonetheless still exists.

but i digress. its fascinating to think about the time when i became hardwired to enjoy spandex, especially because its still mostly mysterious. so to sum it up it was the fabric itself at first was the attraction (even though i never touched or wore it), then discovering how it looked on women, then wanting to be be with a woman who wore spandex.

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Unread postby DynamicTorque » Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:32 am
For me, it has very little to do with the fabric itself. It all started with seeing girls encased in skin-tight fabric and then when the shiny spandex came in, along with unitards, it just seemed so amazing to be able to wear such an outfit....I craved to experience being in it, to emulate & experience the feminicity of the female body. In bed, I'd prefer to embrace a spandex-clad body rather then just a raw naked one.

monkeyboy01 wrote:too often one of the partners "doesn't get it" and then condemns the fetish...but I guess I can't blame individuals for being raised in a narrow minded manner....

I don't think they condemn it as much as they just can't relate to it...to the point that it seems deviant or bizarre, so it rather puts them off. What I've found is the most you can hope for is that a women enjoys seeing you turned-on and enjoys turning you on as well...you get marginal acceptance. As for a women having the similar interest as we do, I'm not sure that's out there. On the whole, very few women are wired with fetishes in the similar manner as so many men.

But to say they're narrow-minded isn't quite the case, it's more like having a taste for something. I think coffee taste like crap, but other people crave it in the similar manner that I love chocolate. To most people, spandex is just a material and what it means to us is just as foreign as color is to a blind man.
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DynamicTorque wrote:I don't think they condemn it as much as they just can't relate to it

Well, see Mack's experiences with comments he got.... and he vows, he wasn't dressed in a provocative manner.

But to say they're narrow-minded isn't quite the case, it's more like having a taste for something. I think coffee taste like crap, but other people crave it in the similar manner that I love chocolate. [/quote]This analogy is a bit apples-oranges ; because what I meant is people who outright think & say you shouldn't be wearing any spandex and the ones who are condemning any fetish or crossdresser in the first place.

I'm not sure, maybe it's the difference in social community, but when it comes to that I'm lucky in Europe.

DynamicTorque wrote:To most people, spandex is just a material and what it means to us is just as foreign as color is to a blind man.

True...but not having a preference for something is totally different from hating & bashing on something when you see it. Again...I can say.. imo it's a better mentality to add positives to the world, seeing the upsides... than to bash & vent for whatever is not in our stylebook.

I mean... I don't care for latex fetish... but do you see me bashing a guy who wears latex in public ? No :)

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Unread postby DynamicTorque » Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:51 pm
Mon-B,

I'd just like to say, given that English probably isn't your primary language, you have an excellent & expressive command for the language!

I see what you're saying, in terms of people who 'bash' or bad-talk spandex. I've never really encountered this and I wouldn't give them the time of day. I'm of the opinion that those who bash it, don't have the body to wear it...or something like that.

In so far as my own experience, all my previous girlfriends and wife have no inherent interest on their own to wear spandex. I've given them the garments and they're just disclined to wearing them. They concede it's comfortable, feels nice and all that...but it also reveals their shape..and that's where swollen butts, pudgy tummies, big hips and pretty much anything short of perfection tends to stick-out...and so they just don't wear it. My wife has several unitards and even a $269 2XU suit in her wardrobe, but she just won't wear it....and I'm sick of asking; I want her to want to wear it on her own. In all honesty, I've reverted to myself in terms of enjoying spandex...she's ironically worked herself out of the equation.
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Unread postby savethespandex » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:03 am
Unfortunately, many who do bash spandex have the body, but not the courage :roll: , to wear it. All of which explains jazz pants :twisted: .
You're damned right I'd rather see women wear tights! Does anyone have a problem with that?

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Unread postby monkeyboy01 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:15 am

DynamicTorque wrote:Mon-B,
I'd just like to say, given that English probably isn't your primary language, you have an excellent & expressive command for the language!

Thanks for the compliment. I'm in the Netherlands by the way, but my wife used to work in Texas for several years : During those years, I had to visit her there quite often of course :D . My family has friends in state New York since late 1960's, so yeah...I'm a tiny bit familiar with the USA.

DynamicTorque wrote:I see what you're saying, in terms of people who 'bash' or bad-talk spandex. I've never really encountered this and I wouldn't give them the time of day. I'm of the opinion that those who bash it, don't have the body to wear it...or something like that.

I haven't really encountered such talk about spandex in person either, but I do hope you can acknowledge the phenomenon of people who are out there to agitate against a whole lot of things - in a negative manner - for the mere sake of bashing.

The sad thing is, sometimes we might be guilty of similar thoughts ourselves too, subconsciously. But yeah, the bigger difference is : even if I don't like a style...I'm not inclined to vent it out in a "loud" vocal manner.

DynamicTorque wrote:In so far as my own experience, all my previous girlfriends and wife have no inherent interest on their own to wear spandex. I've given them the garments and they're just disclined to wearing them. They concede it's comfortable, feels nice and all that...but it also reveals their shape..and that's where swollen butts, pudgy tummies, big hips and pretty much anything short of perfection tends to stick-out...and so they just don't wear it. My wife has several unitards and even a $269 2XU suit in her wardrobe, but she just won't wear it....and I'm sick of asking; I want her to want to wear it on her own. In all honesty, I've reverted to myself in terms of enjoying spandex...she's ironically worked herself out of the equation.

Sorry to hear that. Here in NL, sports like speed skating & bicycling are pretty big : so, spandex is not an uncommon sight in public. A lot just depends on social environment, but my wife wasn't exactly familiar herself with spandex before either.

Does she wear spandex now by herself ? Is she in perfect fashion model shape ? Not really & really not - BUT - she does take the iniative to wear the shiny swimsuits when she intends to play with me :mrgreen:
Also, when I wear the spandex under normal clothes, you might catch a glimpse of it, sticking out from under the shirt neckline ; usually, she'll spot it, then quickly tug it and give me a naughty smile. Heheh...

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Unread postby DynamicTorque » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:00 pm
Nina,

LOL, I sure covered a lot in my other post, but let me see if I can pick-up on anything new here...

Nina wrote: You enjoy the female body....it also tempts you to experience the feeling yourself, albeit restraining yourself from crossing the boundaries too far into the homosexual patterns or behaviors. :P

Gay people generally wear spandex for the revealing qualities, it's basically one step short of being naked. It also may relate to the high percentage of gay men in the ballet and people equating spandex + men = gay

I don't think spandex fetishist wear spandex because they want to be women or pass for women, I think there are two main reasons:

1) Because they see the stunning beauty of spandex on a woman's body and they want to experience that on a visceral level; curious as to how it feels to be encompassed by such a shiny, tight, binding and smooth material....you have to admit, it truly is different & special. So we're not emulating a woman's body, we're just in a way trying to connect with it. Most guys will sooner or later look in the mirror and say "oh damn, hell no" and avoid the mirror at all cost. We don't have the curves or features, you do....but still, to be encased in spandex is neat and if a guy can't get his girlfriend or wife to wear it, he may let his curiousity prompt some experimenting....

2) Because wearing spandex is something that makes us feel sexy, it's something we can wear that allows us to show some leg, ass and look sporty and attractive as well. Like I mentioned in my other post, once I started wearing cycling shorts I noticed women checking me out....to have (or own) that kind of power is neat, it's like stealing a page from the book that you women own. I think many of us really enjoy that quality....like fashion. I'm sure you can connect with that. To me it's really the only 'sexy' thing us guys have that we can wear. So we're not gay, CD or trying to pass for women.....we're just enjoying the fashion and sense of feeling attractive. My favorite reason & explanation!

Nina wrote: As time went by, I slowly began to like the idea of wearing these things even at the comfort of sitting alone at home. So I no longer needed an excuse to wear spandex, especially leggings, as I slowly taught myself to like it with or without him. But again, I must strongly emphasize that if it has no purpose for me to wear it in public then I won't do it so much, especially when it involves the extreme types like catsuits. If it were leggings though, I'd still wear them in most circumstances.

As I also mentioned in my other post, nobody would expect you to wear spandex inappropriately. In public, leggings are pretty much your only play. At the gym or while running, swimming or cycling you can do other stuff....but we're not here to suggest you parade around in public in your catsuit, certainly not. Once you get home and are in for the evening, then something more comfortable might be in order...but you understand; occassion appropriate, certainly.

Nina wrote: I'm a fashion nut, or so to speak, so that's probably one of the reasons why I was convinced to wear things much easier than other women. :oops:

Actually, my experience is that most women detest the spandex for it's demanding price: a perfect body. For as it has been said "spandex is unforgiving" or "spandex is a privilege". If you look at music video's from the 80's and today, you can see that today society/fashion/trend is holding women to a near supermodel requirement in terms of being lean. You can see the 'full-figured' gals in Abba dancing around in unitards in their video....by today's standards both gals would be tossed into a boot-camp until their abs shredded to a washboard. The thinking today: if you don't have that perfect body, then don't show it.

The resistance I've encountered of women wearing anything skin-tight and revealing is a lack of confidence insighted by their having little bulges, flab and generally lacking a tone & trim body. In particular, my wife sites the way the unitard shows-off her 'ponch' (the protruding little tummy that she insist has been exacerbated by her having birthed 3 children). Time and again "you won't catch me wearing that" is all about their not wanting to wear anything so revealing. Beyond that, it's not wanting to wear anything out of fashion....but let me assure you, I've overheard many women openly praising the demise of the leotard and other spandex at gyms....embracing their yoga pants, Juicy/Pink sweats and what-not. Nobody wants the accountability that spandex holds you to.....

Nina wrote: As time went by, I slowly began to like the idea of wearing these things even at the comfort of sitting alone at home. So I no longer needed an excuse to wear spandex, especially leggings, as I slowly taught myself to like it with or without him.

And that brings us to question time.....

You slowly taught yourself to like it....do tell :)

Is that to suggest that you didn't like it at one point? Why didn't you like it and what was your hesitation in wearing it? When you first put it on, what was that experience like?

I'm going to guess you quickly came to realize how much guys would look at you and that kind of attention is addicting....would I be correct in assuming you are now thriving on this spandex-begotten glory? I would almost liken it to high heels; they couldn't feel comfortable to walk in, but they just look so stunning, get attention and just finish an outfit...so you indulge the pain for the gain. With spandex, there is no pain but you now realize how many guys really do like it. You see & notice guys looking and that certainly feels good, eh?

I presume you live alone, but don't you ever get into one of your catsuits and just lay there watchign tv and occassionally stretch and feel yourself slide over the couch or look out over your body and just like the way the fabric feels....does it touch your sensual and erotic side in some way? I can't help but feel & sense you've discovered a little bit of the erotic side within yourself....is that perhaps what is happening? Because you seem interested in getting your new boyfriend into you wearing it and maybe even him too.....what's going on inside that head of yours Nina, inquiring minds very much would love to know :D
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Re: Pet Peeves?

Unread postby DynamicTorque » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:56 am

Nina wrote: I think you're right, I think I am finally beginning to connect with my erotic side. You know something, I'm thinking I should go and put on a catsuit for a little while, even if it meant I'm only using it around the flat.

Oh yeah, she's down with the sickness for sure. Wear your catsuit, close your eyes and listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkhfL0pnMPQ&ob=av2e

All the while, you do realize that you're sending many of the members here into a freakin' tizzy imagining you slithering into your suit and just enjoying yourself; it's well beyond a dream come true, it's the upmost in spandex sincerity when you realize the delicate balance between the splendor of beauty and absolute power that you have, as a women...outwardly expressing what you have in fashion. Intoxicating, simply intoxicating.....and it's so funny how so few women ever realize this.

I have a really great female friend up in Calgary, she has more fetishes then we can count....it's almost hard to believe such a person can exist. One of her biggest points is that women have this huge power that can reach right into a man's heart, soul & mind. She's not an attention-whore nor is she into flaunting it, but she exudes a tremendous sense of sensuality that radiates from her by two things; the attitude she carries and the clothes she wears. I think you're tapping in to some of that, cause I'm sensing something emerging and budding and it's not the fabric, but the feelings associated with it....and perhaps that's what we're all chasing.

Nina wrote:Hey DynamicTorque, do you have a real name? It will probably save all the time typing up DynamicTorque in future references. Sorry for asking, if you don't want to reveal your real name that's okay. I'm just a bit of a lazy typer, in truth. :P

Course I have a real name, but I can't risk destroying a potential political career by disclosing it, lol. The overwhelming majority of members generally refer to me as DT...or my Indian name: He who can't respond with less then 1,000 words :)

Nina wrote: I may be a White Australian woman on the outside but after all the years I spent living in the Middle East I never really grew up in the same environment that Westerners do.

Well that would certainly explain the delightful and thorough command of the English language you clearly possess. As for culture, there too you are spot-on, right now the quasi-anorexic look is popular over here: if you can live more then 2 days without eating food, you've got too much fat on your body! Leaner, slimmer, trimmer and size 2 is the goal. Course, I'm in Los Angeles and out here we breed the sickness....as you head East, females are allotted 2% more body-fat with each time-zone...but the time you hit the Middle East you can be a bit plump and still be the rage of the casbah!

LOL, I'm exaggerating for jovial effect, but honestly....I know several lean hotties in the gym who refuse to try swimming in the gym pool for fear of revealing that they've lost a beat since they were 22 years old with creamy-perfect skin and a centerfold body. Good for you that you enjoy your body; it's the greatest instrument you'll ever own and we should aspire to enjoy it!

Nina wrote: because round here there are many girls, including myself, ready to tackle on any 'unforgiving' piece of clothing for the suspense of seeing men go berserk about it. :D

Yeah Nina, you already had us with "I'm going to put on my catsuit"....no need to push us into an erotic coma with statements like that.....and on behalf of pretty much every male member here, where exactly are you living and could you estimate the peak times when women are cyclicaly peaking at their horniness... :D

Nina wrote: You know, I'll be doing this fabric a lot of injustice if I come out and say I didn't like it at first. I'll just say it took some getting used to but you'll quickly fall in love with the material and the good fortunes it brings to you, especially when dressing up in something stylish (like leggings) and noticing all the positive looks around you. It's the sort of feedback most women crave for. What I meant by saying that I taught myself to like it is that I finally found the rhythm to wear it for my own good instead of always having to wear it for my ex. After some while I started to wear it without needing an excuse, unlike at first when I only wore it as an excuse for someone else's pleasure.

Ummm.....FLAWLESS

If it's leggings you desire, I need to hook you up with the member L.A Spandex-Lycra, he has several links to some incredible leggings. For he is to leggings what I am to triathlon suits :)
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Re: Pet Peeves?

Unread postby VanMan » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:17 pm
You know, I'm going to put in my two-cents on this discussion about Nina's spandex-wearing.

Nina: You mentioned that you feel you can only wear leggings when you wear spandex in public. I think someone (DT maybe) suggested there are blousy leotards/bodysuits that you can wear with a skirt or slacks and none would be the wiser. How about this? If you want to wear your catsuit out, throw a blazer, blouse or sweater over it, maybe even a miniskirt, add a wide belt and other accessories and you're golden! I think that kind of fashion was used in the early 1990s. I remember Jenny Jones had that kind of outfit in the opener of her old talk show back then.
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Re: Pet Peeves?

Unread postby DynamicTorque » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:44 pm
Good suggestion VM, but I bet it comes back down to the impracticality of having to dismantle & disrobe just about everything in order for her to go to the bathroom. It really sucks; the skirt, blouse, jacket...everything needs to come off (and be hung somewhere) just to go to the bathroom. If the only spandex you are exposing is your legs, then why not just stick with tights or leggings? Can't blame them for thinking that way.

For us, having more coverage feels great and it's all part of that shrink-wrapped fitment...but most gals can't relate to that purpose, they're drawn to that silly concept known as practicality.

What most women don't realize is that guys will notice if the shiny colorful material on their legs matches a hint of the identical material seen further up on their torso, arms or chest....then we realize it's a bodysuit and it drives us nuts. Anytime I see leggings that a shiny and snug, I can't help but wonder and hope if I'll see a bit more of that same material above their waist...it's about a 5% shot, but so nice when it happens. :)
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Re: Pet Peeves?

Unread postby savethespandex » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:56 pm
Pettest peeve of all: Women who wear skin-tight shirts over chicken pants. Talk about lacking courage.
You're damned right I'd rather see women wear tights! Does anyone have a problem with that?

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Re: Pet Peeves?

Unread postby Hermes » Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:08 am
Pet Peeves: 1) Models dressing in catsuits that are at least a size too big.

2) Awesome fashion trends coming to an end. I swear that this time last year there were shiny liquid leggings on every street, but now... what happened?!!

Nina wrote:As time went by, I slowly began to like the idea of wearing these things even at the comfort of sitting alone at home. So I no longer needed an excuse to wear spandex, especially leggings, as I slowly taught myself to like it with or without him.

This also interests me. I'm a hypnotist so I know a bit about changes in belief or perception. Nina I'm guessing that your exposure to spandex was most likely associated with enjoyable experiences, so I guess association has a lot to do with it?

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