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Unread postby Killatron » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:17 pm
One of our members brought it to my attention that perhaps having specific threads for photos isnt the best way to go. Instead, it should be like it was, with each photo post getting its own thread, regardless of content.

So out of curiosity, what do you the viewer want? Do you want more categorization? Divide the board up in a broader, yet similar way the site is organized? Or do you want a total free for all? Allow members to just post topics with single photos or a hundred photos, topics named as they see fit, and simply let the popular topics rise to the top?

Ill leave it up to you, the viewer.

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Re: Organized threads or free for all?

Unread postby superheroinelinks » Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:30 am
To All,
It's EASIER to find something if the pics are posted to an exisiting post and grouped into similar ongoing topics. The newest posts are at the end. There is MORE than ONE page per post.

Without order, there is KAOS.
That's what happened to the last board. It was out of control, thousands of posts, hundreds if NOT thousands of posts. Random, topics with little or no description at all. IMPOSSIBLE to find something even searching within the forum. Every time some one had a thought, let just made new topics and titled it "pic" or
"new one"
"vid"
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"yeah"
"some"

many of whom were one timers and would vanish, and OFTEN posted DUPLICATES or complete XXX not even spandex related.

HOW THE HELL could or would ANYONE find anything?
Do you feel like reading EVERY post, which would be hours if not days or crap, and spam because that's what it was. Does everyone think this is bad? REALLY? Hundreds of pages of crap? No control? No descriptions? Dups, dups, dups? Dead links everywhere? Not to mention it will be shutdown by someone breaking copyrights law's just like it did before, is that what everyone wants? Not for nothing but there are plenty of other boards out there that already exists with no control. Were trying to keep this one legal so it does NOT get shutdown and organized.

Not to pat myself on the back BUT for people who just throw links and photos up here with no description, I've been making thumbnails for them. Especially in the YouTube area that aren't even mine. How nice is that?
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Re: Organized threads or free for all?

Unread postby elvisp » Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:36 am

superheroinelinks wrote:To All,
It's EASIER to find something if the pics are posted to an exisitng post and grouped into similar ongoing topics. The newest posts are at the end. There is MORE than ONE page per post.

Without order, there is KAOS.
That's what happened to the last board. It was out of control, thousands of posts, hundreds if NOT thousands of posts. Random, topics with little or no description at all. IMPOSSIBLE to find something even searching within the forum.

I agree with you 100% superheroinelinks, especially regarding the ridiculous one-pic/one-post with a title of "hey" or "check this out" - never again would not be soon enough.

Kudos to Killatron for putting it to the members (all 13 who voted so far). Since there is certainly effort involved in contributing - giving credit is good form versus poor - and while there's still posts from me that were merged without credit, you've embraced giving credit since then. As far as an "individuality" of a post, I could care less.

My two cents.

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Re: Organized threads or free for all?

Unread postby Snacky54 » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:18 am
I'm all for the grouping method. It's a lot easier to find what you want. I post a lot in the "Aerobics" thread. I can't imagine what a headache it would be if that were split into different categories. Also, if I gotta see one more thread about the "Call On Me" video, I'm gonna puke in my soup! Great video, but you gotta be stupid if you think that it's something new to any spandex board. I also think that a lot of the people complaining about their post being moved are just a bunch of attention whores. Thanks for contributing, but get over yourself. Just my .02.
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Unread postby Killatron » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:34 pm
Hey spandex fans, I figure I would give a breakdown about how images get classified for the main galleries. I have gotten a few questions about this and I figure Id answer them all at once.

As you know Ive divided the site up into eleven sections, each with numerous sub sections for classifying photos. It's far from a perfect system though because there are many photos that fall into multiple categories.

Here is a breakdown of a few photo examples, and how they will be sorted:

Type of photo.....................................................Where it will be placed.
Swimsuit photo, candid shot..................................Amateur. Swimsuit Gallery
Swimsuit photo, magazine scan..............................Swimsuit Gallery
Celebrity on stage................................................Event, Concert Gallery
Celebrity candid...................................................Miscellaneous, Celebrity Gallery
Ebay Auction, shiny leotard....................................Amateur, Leotard Modeling Gallery
Japanese race queen............................................Event, Race Queen Gallery
Asian model in a magazine......................................Asian Gallery
Asian model in costume.........................................Cosplay Gallery
Triathlon photo, candid shot...................................Event, Track Field / Other Gallery
Triathalon photo, celebrity.....................................Miscellaneous, Celebrity Gallery

In short I try to classify photos by four key points.
1. The quality of the photo. (it it for a magazine / professional media.)
2. What are they doing.
3. Who they are. (overrides 1 & 4 if they are a known celebrity)
4. What type of spandex is being worn. (cotton lycra mix photos are generally lumped together, same with pantyhose)

If I simply classified everything by type, then we would have a lot less galleries and a lot more mess.

Anyway, if anyone has suggestions for new sub galleries, or even main ones, let me know. Jodhpurs will become a sub gallery of the Miscellaneous Gallery in future updates. But that's the only addition planned.
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Re: Image Classification

Unread postby Lycrafan2004 » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:26 am
thank you very much for this clarification! This is very useful.
Please make this sticky that we will find this at any time.

I miss a folder for Women doing Gymnastics like Pilates, Yoga and Aerobics and a folder for Rhythmic Gym.

P.S.: In private things (sorting my private collection) i have these problems too but i have found a way for myself. I sort them by the kind of dress and by the things they are doing. That means the following folders: Ballet, Contortion, Gym, Rhythmic Gym, Sports (what they are doing) and Dresses (with the Subfolders Lycra {contains only posing Amateurs and Models; Sports, Gym and so on are sorted into the other folders} and Pantyhose).
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Re: Image Classification

Unread postby Killatron » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:00 am
Your welcome. It's difficult to manage efficiency with organization at times.

Oh, and stickied.
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Re: Image Classification

Unread postby davislove » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:17 am
killatron I would hope that this classification or reclassification that your hoping to do follows very closely ie hand-in-hand with whats already established. I, since my joining here have created 3/4 brand new categories: triathlon, swim meet competitions, and seldom used acrobatics...jodphurs was created by our moderator on my suggestion.
I as our moderator are not big in adding new categories. I do recognize that there is some looseness and duplicative type categories. That seldom used acrobatics for example could be blended into a pilates/yoga/contortion type category. I know there is a swimsuit thread but 'my' competition swim meet thread should not for example be blended together...i also do apnea, dive meet there and its geared more to competition than showing/modeling one piece swimsuits which is more of the idea behind the swim suit thread.
There is just one tight shorts thread which i am updating almost exclusively ( a couple of other members contribute there but i am doing 80%+ of the posting) in which i post mostly athletic events track@field, bike shorts ect.
There is an olympic competition thread...what would you do with that?
There will also be the need to open up new categories in the future. Will you leave flexibility to do so?
How much content will be eliminated in this reclassification?
There isnt a pure catsuit or one-piece long sleeve long leg athletic lycra thread...any such photos must go into the halloween costume thread. Comicon has its own category but there isnt the aforementioned thread.

As you can see there is a lot of homework thought and evaluation in such endeavor. I just hope things are thought out very very very well before its enacted. this is why i hope that its done following very closely to whats already presentThanks

ps: i also think there could be a grab bag category...a kind of anything goes so long as its shiny photos only no formal post just photos only(similar to a picture only posting site)...ie the only thing you see is the photo and who posted it, thats it.
I would not mind a 'personal thread'. A number of us i think can be trusted enough to have our own thread awarded to us (as a reward)to show these grab bag type photos that would not fit into any given category or simply 'off topic' type photos.
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Re: Image Classification

Unread postby superheroinelinks » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:59 am
No matter what happens, simply put - No one ever reads or follows the rules.
I am a member of others boards and the others are such a wreck you can NEVER find anything.
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Re: Image Classification

Unread postby Killatron » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:00 pm
SHL, very true.

Davis, you got the wrong impression. This is not a set of new rules for the forum, this is an example of the system I use for the main galleries. I'm considering refining that and possibly adding categories. No content is set to be eliminated. In the pantyhose thread we already spoke of the refinement going on there. That was the only issue that was getting too far off topic.
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Re: Image Classification

Unread postby Lycrafan2004 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:34 pm

superheroinelinks wrote:No matter what happens, simply put - No one ever reads or follows the rules.
I am a member of others boards and the others are such a wreck you can NEVER find anything.
Grab bag = Bad idea

SHL and Killatron, I second that endeavor to get a order into this forum but in fact we (i mean we members of TPOWIS) wail on a high level! I have seen other forums and there was no order at all. Each new thread, each new posting, each new file was posted into a new thread. Files are attached to a thread and this is posted with the title "new Pics!" into the forum. The thread contains no descriptions, just the Pics. Nobody will be able to find these files in two weeks! And after a few months the attached files will be deleted to free space on the server..... To tear one's hair!!!!

So i have to thank the Team for this really well organized and cleaned up forum. Such a forum with so many subforums and Topics is really rare to find! Congrats!!!!

The idea of putting the Acrobats, the Yoga and Pilates Performers together, which was made by Davis is not that bad. I think it is worth to think about it! Some Yoga Asanas really are not far away from Contortion and Bendability! And the Split is seen in both, Yoga and Acrobatic Gymnastics, also in some advanced Pilates Exercises you will see the Split! So i support that.

Davislove wrote:There is an olympic competition thread...what would you do with that?

I also support that the Olympic thread should be thought over. The Pics there could be moved to Track and Field or Rhythmic Floor Gymnastics. You do not have to take along a thread that is used all 4 years....

Davislove wrote:I know there is a swimsuit thread but 'my' competition swim meet thread should not for example be blended together

i for myself have also the problem where to move the posing model pics. I support Davis that for example the Thread with active swim Athletes should not be put together with the Modelling Thread. A special thread for both.

Killatron wrote:That was the only issue that was getting too far off topic.

In the end the replies to this and their length show that there are some that think and care about this forum, who love to be here and that is what's counting! And if there is a good solution which is supported by all it is the best you can think about!
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Unread postby davislove » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:59 pm
Lets see if I reexpress my opinion so that everyone understands. No i did not mean to say it would be a set of new rules as you just mentioned. What i understand is that it appears that you will 'radically change' the organization of threads and categories...What i feel is that if there is going to be a reorganization of said categories and threads it should be very closely aligned to what we already have after very very very careful study and thought. shl thinks that we are already pretty organized as it is...i feel the same way.
[i already explained the lack of a spandex catsuit subtopic ect...so yes you need to add some and take away others that are seldom used and merge a few ect ect]
I understand there is a bit of looseness and some repetitive/ambigious categories (a few might need to be reorganized into one lets say) but its not too bad as it now stands. The way you have your pic categories in your main site is TOO restrictive. I dont think you can do this entire forum into 8-9 categories and thats it. I think inside those categories you will be needing enough sub topics as we now have{if you create too many subtopics whats the point in reorganizing...and it might create too many posts because 20 pics in a post under one 'loose sub-topic' today might need to be split up into 2 or 3 separate posts in this reorganized forum because of being forced to split up the 20 pics into 2/3 tinier subtopics causing more agravations and confusion and more editing by our moderator than we already have why have this additional agravation??? :evil: :evil: }...but i do see your view to too 'tighten up the ship' just a tad... but nothing too radical needs to be done i feel...again more aligned as to what we already have.
I think i expressed myself well in a pretty lengthy earlier post...hopefully by now everyone knows where i stand. :lol:
ps: your 'fighting' and 'art' category for example would get too too few posts that it might not even be worth its own main topic...take a look at whats posted here in the forum and the last updates there; its too infrequent to have its own main topic for example. A number of your subtopics have dated photos and if you look at this forum there isnt a lot of newer pics in some of those subtopics because there is little interest apparently or that subtopic which was 'hot' 3-5+ years ago isnt in vogue now. 'fighting' was big back then...not anymore.
So an adjustment to the main topics to what now is 'hot' for this forum might work best...A few years from now a few 'hot' topics of today may need to be replaced to what is 'hot' then.

lycrafan, greatscott, and others know(incl shl) 2 subtopics i originally created: swim meet competition, triathlon are very very near and dear to me (and very well followed by the forum judging by view counts for the most part) and would be considered by me and seconded by many as 'SACRED COWS' in a newly reorganized forum. As part of a stand alone subtopic ABSOLUTELY but as merged with something else ABSOLUTELY NOT. :lol: :lol: You know killatron thats the same arguement as in the for new nuclear power plants. 'yes we all see the need having them but not in my backyard you wont build one'. :lol:
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Unread postby Lycrafan2004 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:16 pm

davislove wrote:... but nothing too radical needs to be done i feel...again more aligned as to what we already have.

Yes, i also thought that you will do a little here and a new topic there, but nothing more. In my eyes that is ok. This forum is very well ordered!
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Unread postby Killatron » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:13 am
Well, the nice thing about the new system is that regardless of however many sub categories there are, new photos always float to the top. So just hitting one link from the front page gets you right to the goods.

As for categories that were once very active and now are not. Let's take the Fighting Gallery for it's the best example. About 7 years ago it was a hot topic. There was lots of new material coming out of Japan and female wrestlers there were all in something appropriate for our genre. Today, Japanese women's wrestling is nowhere near as popular and there are less leagues than ever. (sorta like wrestling here overall) Again, five or so years ago, there was a lot of LPWA and such leagues here that had lots of great stuff. Now, there are hardly any new photos coming out of events and the wrestlers, they just don't wear the sexy costumes anymore. So the category went from the #1 section of the whole site, to the 4th or 5th section in terms of popularity.

Artwork however has remained constant. There is always some new material that belongs there, and there is enough of it to easily warrant it's own sections. Also, by having dedicated sub topics for art on both the main site and the forums, we encourage artists to share their work.

Anyway, I don't think the system is too restrictive. It just creates more of a pain for me when sorting everything. I also have extremely picky taste when it comes to what makes the cut. This limits the amount of content that goes into updates, but I think it strengthens the site as a whole.
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Re: Organized threads or free for all?

Unread postby ciano » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:40 pm
Thank the lord. I've been wanting this to happen for years. The way things were, the site was barely navigable, and it made all of our users look bad. Thank you.

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Organized categories are rocking!!!! i love everything as is

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Re: Organized threads or free for all?

Unread postby superheroinelinks » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:44 pm
You are all WELCOME, however I do see "some" are randomly posting just about anything in the Leggings thread. At least that mess is contained all in one thread. I WISH everyone would actively TRY to really post in the EXACT category of the topic but what can you do? I try to keep everyone on a short leash.
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Re: Image Classification

Unread postby taurus8 » Thu May 27, 2010 6:12 pm
It isn't bad the way that it is, but some of the stuff can get lost in the shuffle I think.

How about organizing it thus:

Spandex Scriptures - Including general talk about spandex, Intros, Stories, news, rules and regs.

Professional Pictures - people who are wearing spandex as part of their job (Promo girl, Model, Race Queen etc). Under here you'd have Motorsports, etc

Amateur Pictures - Amateur shots, Candids, significant others. Under here you'd have Cosplay, etc,

Famous People in Spandex Pictures - Singers, Dancers and Actresses sighted in Spandex.

Off topic - where stuff like panty hose and other grey area stuff would go.

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Re: Image Classification

Unread postby davislove » Thu May 27, 2010 10:38 pm
too narrow taurus8. You need plenty subtopics. In fact (i would if it were me to reorganize this) you could get away with no 'main topics' and just go with the subtopics [maybe 25-40+ subtopics] in alphabetical order. You could just scroll down to see the subtopic that fits the photos that you are posting and post them there. Amateurs@professional...when you search flickr you cant tell sometimes if the photo is an amateur or simply a professional photographer with a model.

I recognize that having to scroll thru40+ subtopics would take a little time but if its in alphabetical order and very well stated when you sign up its more direct. Now you have to guess as to which main topic your postable photos belong and then look up the subtopics. It takes more time than if you have all 40+ topics listed. Thats a better, faster way to do it.

[celebrities...that does belong in a main topic but with so many you do have to use the search button to find out in which page she is located....i would do it in alphabetical order And all of them in one page...you will be scrolling for a while but you will find it since its on the one page]
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Unread postby Lycrafan2004 » Fri May 28, 2010 8:39 am
The Idea is not bad Taurus, but i second Davis, that these Categories are too narrow. What you categorized is only the first level, but what about the second level?
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Unread postby catfightreport » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:09 pm
I think the more narrow, with broader overall categories, the better. But, that is just my opinion.
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Unread postby rose » Tue May 24, 2011 5:45 am
Nowadays women are more conscious about health and body shape, if you are fit then defiantly then all the images will be rocking.
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Unread postby vorn29 » Tue May 24, 2011 7:02 pm

rose wrote:Nowadays women are more conscious about health and body shape, if you are fit then defiantly then all the images will be rocking.

Nowadays we still recognise spam when we see it.

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